Wednesday, October 31, 2007
Fwd: Article from RealClearPolitics
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More on what Dennis Praeger says about the definition of Islamic Facism.
Gecko ( geckofeeder@gmail.com) wanted to share the following link with you:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/10/the_left_and_the_term_islamofa.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com
Monday, October 29, 2007
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Friday, October 26, 2007
IslamoFascism Awareness Week - Dennis Prager Stuns Them at UCSB
Prager asked for clarity rather than agreement; he gave clarity and got disagreement from many including the polite and colorful Omar, and the not so polite from the rumbled suit pictured above who was waving the copy of "The Israeli Lobby".
Tuesday, October 23, 2007
Sunday, October 21, 2007
Gobsmacked Again: Call and Response #6
Mizz e brought this to my attention and she got it from a secret source, RRacoon, whose eyes have been opened since Jan 2007.
Be sure to check out the portraits from the Atlanta museum.
Made me weep. Bless them all and their families.
Gobsmacked Again: Call and Response #6
Be sure to check out the portraits from the Atlanta museum.
Made me weep. Bless them all and their families.
Gobsmacked Again: Call and Response #6
Thanks to Ben for pointing out Joe Arpaio, Sheriff of Maricopa County , you know, the one that has his prisoners wearing pink, taking care of the animals and should probably be heading up immigration in this country. Julie got to vote for him. Heh.
Friday, October 19, 2007
Thursday, October 18, 2007
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
OMG, I feel so much better since I purchased my indulgences over at Petey's Place I highly recommend showing your appreciation and I really don't see why it can't be a tax write off for O's sake. What do you think?
"Thank you for choosing to purchase your indulgence and/or carbon offset from One Cosmos. We know you have a choice of where to purchase your indulgences, and we appreciate your soul-investment in the B'ob's Vertical Raccoon Church of Perpetual Mischief instead of, say, the Church of Scientology, which is much more expensive anyway, even though I suppose it is a tax write off.
Please print out this email, as it is your proof of forgiveness, absolution, reprieval, clearance, and/or immunity for any past or future
--trespass
--venial sin
--transgression
--intemperate remark
--"harmless" vice
--routine backsliding
--doctrinal error
--inevitable failing
--personal fault
--everyday indiscretion
--spiritual lapse
--boyish peccadillo
--practical joke gone wrong
--Democrat vote
Present this sacred crockument to any arresting officer in the Western Hemisphere of planet earth for IMMEDIATE RELEASE, including for jury duty.
On behalf of Bob, and by the awesome power vested in me, the Grand High Mystic Exalted Ruler of the Transdimensional Order of the Friendly Sons & Daughters of the Cosmic Raccoons,
YOU ARE FORGIVEN
Now go away my child and sin once again, so that you must purchase another indulgence.
Raccoonally Yours,
Petey, GHEMR, TOFSDCR, etc., etc."
"Thank you for choosing to purchase your indulgence and/or carbon offset from One Cosmos. We know you have a choice of where to purchase your indulgences, and we appreciate your soul-investment in the B'ob's Vertical Raccoon Church of Perpetual Mischief instead of, say, the Church of Scientology, which is much more expensive anyway, even though I suppose it is a tax write off.
Please print out this email, as it is your proof of forgiveness, absolution, reprieval, clearance, and/or immunity for any past or future
--trespass
--venial sin
--transgression
--intemperate remark
--"harmless" vice
--routine backsliding
--doctrinal error
--inevitable failing
--personal fault
--everyday indiscretion
--spiritual lapse
--boyish peccadillo
--practical joke gone wrong
--Democrat vote
Present this sacred crockument to any arresting officer in the Western Hemisphere of planet earth for IMMEDIATE RELEASE, including for jury duty.
On behalf of Bob, and by the awesome power vested in me, the Grand High Mystic Exalted Ruler of the Transdimensional Order of the Friendly Sons & Daughters of the Cosmic Raccoons,
YOU ARE FORGIVEN
Now go away my child and sin once again, so that you must purchase another indulgence.
Raccoonally Yours,
Petey, GHEMR, TOFSDCR, etc., etc."
Gecko has sent you a link to a blog:
Dancing parrot!
Blog: Bird Lovers Only Rescue
Post: May I have this dance?
Link: http://birdloversonly.blogspot.com/2007/09/may-i-have-this-dance.html
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Dancing parrot!
Blog: Bird Lovers Only Rescue
Post: May I have this dance?
Link: http://birdloversonly.blogspot.com/2007/09/may-i-have-this-dance.html
--
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
Monday, October 15, 2007
One Cosmos: Occidents Don't Just Happen
Read it all and don't skip the links or go back to them when time permits for it is excellent!
One Cosmos: Occidents Don't Just Happen
One Cosmos: Occidents Don't Just Happen
Sunday, October 14, 2007
Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet commented over at LGF and reminded me of the following that is a good idea to know. My Mom got me the book. Seems to me they achieved many of their goals.
This was entered into the Congressional Record in 1963, taken from a book called "The Naked Communist".
The goals of the Communist Party. Some of my favorites/working best for the Communists.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (Ed-Mission accomplished)
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. (Ed- Mission Accomplished)
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
This was entered into the Congressional Record in 1963, taken from a book called "The Naked Communist".
The goals of the Communist Party. Some of my favorites/working best for the Communists.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (Ed-Mission accomplished)
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. (Ed- Mission Accomplished)
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Just in case any of my cooniacs don't know about Sherrif Joe , here is an introduction: read it all.
Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe!
Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million dollars a year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors said okay.
The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the street, given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows.
The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3 million.
Teresa and I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered, and current on all shots, in great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him. Cost us $78.
The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for free, just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals.
I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at the way he runs the jail system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the work and harvesting by hand. He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for $6 - $8 for the Holidays, and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard from the Prison.
Yup, he was reelected last year with 83% of the vote.
Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural, that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40 deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the border. He's kind of a "Git-R Dun" kind of Sheriff.
Update on Joe Arpaio
TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO
HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio
(In Arizona)
who created the
"Tent City Jail":
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
Then He Started
Chain Gangs For Women
So He Wouldn't Get
Sued For
Discrimination.
He took away cable TV Until he found out there was A Federal Court Order
that Required Cable TV For Jails
So He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In The Disney Channel And The Weather Channel.
When asked why the weather channel
He Replied,
So They Will Know
How Hot It's Gonna Be
While They Are Working
ON My Chain Gangs.
He Cut Off Coffee
Since It Has
Zero Nutritional Value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This Isn't The Ritz/Carlton If You Don't Like It,
Don't Come Back."
He bought Newt Gingrich's lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails ails.
When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
More On The Arizona Sheriff:
With Temperatures Being Even Hotter
Than Usual In Phoenix
(116 Degrees Just Set A New Record),
the Associated Press Reports:
About 2,000 Inmates Living In A Barbed-Wire-Surrounded Tent Encampment
At The
Maricopa County Jail Have Been Given Permission To Strip Down To Their Government-Issued
Pink Boxer Shorts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached
138 Degrees
Inside The Week Before.
Many Were Also Swathed In Wet, Pink Towels As Sweat Collected On Their Chests And Dripped Down To Their PINK SOCKS.
"It Feels Like We Are In A Furnace,"
Said James Zanzot,
An Inmate Who Has Lived In The TENTS for 1 year.
"It's Inhumane."
Joe Arpaio,
the tough-guy sheriff
who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 Degrees In Iraq And
Our Soldiers Are Living In Tents Too,
And They Have To
Wear Full Battle Gear,
But
They Didn't Commit Any Crimes,
So Shut Your Damned Mouths!"
Way To Go, Sheriff!
Maybe if all prisons were like this one
there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders.
Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe!
Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million dollars a year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors said okay.
The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the street, given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows.
The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3 million.
Teresa and I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered, and current on all shots, in great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him. Cost us $78.
The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for free, just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals.
I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at the way he runs the jail system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the work and harvesting by hand. He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for $6 - $8 for the Holidays, and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard from the Prison.
Yup, he was reelected last year with 83% of the vote.
Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural, that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40 deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the border. He's kind of a "Git-R Dun" kind of Sheriff.
Update on Joe Arpaio
TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO
HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio
(In Arizona)
who created the
"Tent City Jail":
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
Then He Started
Chain Gangs For Women
So He Wouldn't Get
Sued For
Discrimination.
He took away cable TV Until he found out there was A Federal Court Order
that Required Cable TV For Jails
So He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In The Disney Channel And The Weather Channel.
When asked why the weather channel
He Replied,
So They Will Know
How Hot It's Gonna Be
While They Are Working
ON My Chain Gangs.
He Cut Off Coffee
Since It Has
Zero Nutritional Value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This Isn't The Ritz/Carlton If You Don't Like It,
Don't Come Back."
He bought Newt Gingrich's lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails ails.
When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
More On The Arizona Sheriff:
With Temperatures Being Even Hotter
Than Usual In Phoenix
(116 Degrees Just Set A New Record),
the Associated Press Reports:
About 2,000 Inmates Living In A Barbed-Wire-Surrounded Tent Encampment
At The
Maricopa County Jail Have Been Given Permission To Strip Down To Their Government-Issued
Pink Boxer Shorts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached
138 Degrees
Inside The Week Before.
Many Were Also Swathed In Wet, Pink Towels As Sweat Collected On Their Chests And Dripped Down To Their PINK SOCKS.
"It Feels Like We Are In A Furnace,"
Said James Zanzot,
An Inmate Who Has Lived In The TENTS for 1 year.
"It's Inhumane."
Joe Arpaio,
the tough-guy sheriff
who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 Degrees In Iraq And
Our Soldiers Are Living In Tents Too,
And They Have To
Wear Full Battle Gear,
But
They Didn't Commit Any Crimes,
So Shut Your Damned Mouths!"
Way To Go, Sheriff!
Maybe if all prisons were like this one
there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders.
Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
Saturday, October 13, 2007
Friday, October 12, 2007
Thursday, October 11, 2007
I got this tidbit http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=10630 - thhough I can't figure out how to post a link.
'Cathedral Controversy
"During summit on “Islamophobia” Muslims demand use of Cathedral of Cordoba for religious services
Madrid, Oct 11, 2007 / 10:41 am (CNA).- During a summit on “Islamophobia” organized by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and the Arab League of Cordoba in Spain, the secretary general of the Arab League, Amr Moussa, demanded Muslims be granted the right to hold religious services at the Cathedral of Cordoba.
The first day of the summit quickly became controversial when Moussa demanded that the Cathedral, which was once a Mosque, be made available for Muslim prayer.
“All churches and mosques are built for prayer and to be used for this end; I think there wouldn’t be a religious clash at all; the clash would be instead of a political nature,” Moussa said. However, he ignored questions pertaining to why Christians are not only forbidden to pray in mosques but are even prohibited from building churches in some Muslim countries.
Spain’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Miguel Angel Moratinos, who is president of the OSCE and the inspiration behind the summit, distanced himself from the controversy and said the Church would have to decide whether or not to allow the Cathedral to be used by Muslims. “Whatever the Church does will be done well,” he said.
Diocesan officials in Cordoba responded by reiterating the position Bishop Juan Jose Asenjo laid out last December when Muslims at that time made the same demands. Bishop Asenjo had said that “inter-religious dialogue” was necessary, but he warned that the “shared use of churches and places of worship would not be helpful to dialogue and would only create confusion among the faithful, resulting in religious indifferentism.”
The bishop pointed out that common worship space makes sense in “an airport or at an Olympic village, as these are not properly speaking churches but rather places of prayer, but that this is not the case with the Cathedral.” He said he was not opposed that Muslims have “dignified” places of worship but that “these places should be proportionate to the number of faithful that practices Islam, which in Cordoba is relatively small.”
“The seventeen centuries of Cordoba’s Christian history deserve to be respected,” Bishop Asenjo said at that time. Recent work by archeologists has shown that the Cathedral’s sub-floor dates to the 4th and 6th centuries. The Cathedral was completely destroyed after the Muslim invasion of 711."
'Cathedral Controversy
"During summit on “Islamophobia” Muslims demand use of Cathedral of Cordoba for religious services
Madrid, Oct 11, 2007 / 10:41 am (CNA).- During a summit on “Islamophobia” organized by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and the Arab League of Cordoba in Spain, the secretary general of the Arab League, Amr Moussa, demanded Muslims be granted the right to hold religious services at the Cathedral of Cordoba.
The first day of the summit quickly became controversial when Moussa demanded that the Cathedral, which was once a Mosque, be made available for Muslim prayer.
“All churches and mosques are built for prayer and to be used for this end; I think there wouldn’t be a religious clash at all; the clash would be instead of a political nature,” Moussa said. However, he ignored questions pertaining to why Christians are not only forbidden to pray in mosques but are even prohibited from building churches in some Muslim countries.
Spain’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Miguel Angel Moratinos, who is president of the OSCE and the inspiration behind the summit, distanced himself from the controversy and said the Church would have to decide whether or not to allow the Cathedral to be used by Muslims. “Whatever the Church does will be done well,” he said.
Diocesan officials in Cordoba responded by reiterating the position Bishop Juan Jose Asenjo laid out last December when Muslims at that time made the same demands. Bishop Asenjo had said that “inter-religious dialogue” was necessary, but he warned that the “shared use of churches and places of worship would not be helpful to dialogue and would only create confusion among the faithful, resulting in religious indifferentism.”
The bishop pointed out that common worship space makes sense in “an airport or at an Olympic village, as these are not properly speaking churches but rather places of prayer, but that this is not the case with the Cathedral.” He said he was not opposed that Muslims have “dignified” places of worship but that “these places should be proportionate to the number of faithful that practices Islam, which in Cordoba is relatively small.”
“The seventeen centuries of Cordoba’s Christian history deserve to be respected,” Bishop Asenjo said at that time. Recent work by archeologists has shown that the Cathedral’s sub-floor dates to the 4th and 6th centuries. The Cathedral was completely destroyed after the Muslim invasion of 711."
Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Sunday, October 07, 2007
Friday, October 05, 2007
Wednesday, October 03, 2007
Just back from New York where the traffic moved slowly as the UN folks got tax payer police escorts to their various parties. Across the street from the apartment building in which I was staying is the Burmese embassy. Daily monks and others gather to protest the horrendous massacre of monks and others who ask to be heard. I still haven't figured out how to actually post a link but here is one you can copy that shows some photos that got out before the thugs that have control there shut down all internet communications. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=484903
Not much about this in the MSM.
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