All the Obama back up FACTS to do with his associations with Saul Alinsky, his radical personal political trainer, and much more today at qp's place. Really, you can't make this stuff up. Oh, and did you know that "Rules For Radicals", Alinsky's "Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals" has a forward in the book in which Alinsky quotes himself: "Lest we forget at least an over the shoulder acknowledgment to ...the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment nd did it so effectively that at least he won his own kingdom- Lucifer.